In episode 16 of 'Wind Yer Neck In' we welcome two time rugby World Cup winning coach Steve Hansen to the pod. Steve and I start by reminiscing about his transition from player to coach and his rise through the coaching ranks. Steve reflects on an experience with the Welsh Rugby team which he believes 'was the making of him as a coach,' but then explains the move back home to New Zealand and the jobs that followed. A large part of this episode is spent asking Steve to reflect on how he took an already World Cup winning New Zealand team in 2011 and made them even better for the 2015 World Cup, where they did what no one had ever done before and retained the Webb Ellis trophy. What challenges did they face? How did Steve frame the vision to allow the players to constantly get better, even when they were already the best team in the world? Finally, what does it mean to be an All Black, and what responsibilities come with pulling on that jersey? As always, we hope you enjoy this chat with one of the sport's biggest characters. Let us know what you think on Twitter (@WindYerNeck_In) and Instagram (windyerneck.in)!