Doug and Carl talk to Jillian Johnsrud, author, blogger, podcaster, and life coach, about her book, Fire the Haters: Finding Courage to Create Online in a Critical World. Jillian lives in Montana with her husband and five children. She reached financial independence at the age of 32, and now she helps coach others on their journey to FI, as well as helping people through career transitions and supporting them as they launch or seek to grow businesses. In her podcast, Everyday Courage, Jillian talks to guests about FIRE, investing, career trajectories, and how to design a happy and successful life. Here are a few highlights from our discussion with Jillian:

Expectations vs reality as a content creator
How to decouple your self from your work
Trying to make everyone happy is never interesting or engaging
How to get helpful feedback but tune out the trolls
Imposter syndrome
Preparation as a form of procrastination (Did we bully Carl into launching a project he's been sitting on for years? Maybe!)
Jillian's perfect day/week
How to reach out to a high-profile person (without being creepy)

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