Forgiveness can be hard. Forgiveness of someone else who has hurt us and forgiveness of ourselves for having hurt someone. Even a sincere apology doesn’t magically wipe away the feelings associated with hurt or betrayal. What we do with those feelings, as they inevitably show up long after the actual experience, is where we do have control and choice.Charles and Ila discuss the multiple barriers to being able to forgive ourselves and others, and the choice we all have in how we choose to live with the memory of broken trust.Forgiveness by J. Ruth Gendler:Forgiveness is a strong woman, tender and earthy and direct. Since her children have left home, she has embarked on an extended walking tour, visiting ruins and old monuments, bathing in rivers and hot springs, travelling through the small towns and large pulsing cities, tracing the current of sorrow under the stories she hears. Sometimes the city authorities and officials don't want her within their gates. If the people want her there enough, she always manages to find a way. Forgiveness brings gifts wherever she goes. Simple ones, a three-stranded twig with leaves turning yellow, a belt she wove on an inkle loom, a little song that grows inside you and changes everything. She brought me a silver ring from the South with a pale stone, pink with a hint of brown. When I had asthma, she taught me how to breathe.