It’s a different kind of episode as Your Next Move welcomes podcast host and CEO, Jessica Hurley. In this reverse interview, Kimberly gets vulnerable as these two powerhouse women discuss learning how to operate by themselves, leaning into the feminine, and what Kimberly wishes she could have done differently. Listen in to this candid dialogue and get a glimpse of what really lies behind your formidable show host and her dream to become the Oprah of career and leadership development.    KEY POINTS: - Who is Jessica Hurley? - Intimidating versus determined - Why it’s lonely at the top - What created Kimberly’s incredible drive - Always saying yes is saying no to yourself  - Operating in masculine energy  - Finding competence and confidence   QUOTABLES: “I would rather die on the treadmill next to you, than let you beat me." “I'm always used to having accountability. I had to do something, I had to prove myself, create the strategy, do the thing, in order to get the opportunity. So that's just how I operate.”    GUEST RESOURCES: Check out Jessica Hurley on social media! IG | @jessicahurley_ - instagram.com/jessicahurley_ Get your voice, your message, and your brand out there through the power of podcasting at instapodcasts.com    Have career and leadership development questions? Email Kimberly at podcast@manifestyourself.com   Learn more about Kimberly Brown and download a free career strategy template at kimberlybonline.com    Read the book “Next Move, Best Move: Transitioning Into a Career You’ll Love” at nextmovebestmovebook.com   Follow Kimberly on social media: IG | @kimberlybonline - instagram.com/kimberlybonline FB | facebook.com/kimberlybonline  Twitter | twitter.com/kimberlybonline LinkedIn | linkedin.com/in/kimberlybonline     Your Next Move is edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)