In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Jeff Cobb interviews Rich Phaneuf, CEO and Executive Director of the Association Executives of North Carolina (AENC). Jeff and Rich discuss his perspective on leadership, the evolving role of associations in education and lifelong learning, and what AENC is doing to support this. Resource Highlight: Socrative – a quizzing tool that enables you to rapidly create relatively sophisticated assessments to track how learners perform. There is a free version as well as a pro version available for $49.95/year. It is also noted that this was highlighted at the Cool Tech Tools to Turbo Charge Your Learning Business session at Learning • Technology • Design™ (LTD) Full show notes available at http://www.leadinglearning.com/episode77.  Thank you to Castle, the sponsor of the Leading Learning podcast for the second quarter of 2017. Castle is an accomplished full-service certification and licensure testing company that also offers its clients a variety of learning solutions capabilities. With an expert team of testing and instructional design professionals and a thirty year history of excellence in it’s field, Castle understands what it takes to develop and deliver quality learning and certification programs.