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The Cleanliness of Clean Wine w/ Erik Segelbaum, SOMLYAY

The Cleanliness of Clean Wine w/ Erik Segelbaum, SOMLYAY

FromXChateau Wine Podcast


The Cleanliness of Clean Wine w/ Erik Segelbaum, SOMLYAY

FromXChateau Wine Podcast

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Length:
46 minutes
Released:
Jan 26, 2022
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

Ever been curious about the claims people make about “clean wines”? In the same camp as “natural wines” and “better for you wines,” clean wines have no definition and often deploy misleading marketing to get you to buy their wines. They take advantage of the trend, particularly with Millenials, around a healthy lifestyle and spread misinformation in their marketing, according to sommelier and wine educator Erik Segelbaum.  Explore the rationale behind the clean wine trend and how to read into their marketing messages on this episode of XChateau!Don’t forget - you can support the show on Patreon to help us keep bringing you excellent wine business content!Detailed Show Notes:Erik’s backgroundWas a chef in fine dining at the Park Hyatt PhiladelphiaAs he grew into wine, he stopped drinking for alcohol and more for flavorHe became a sommelier because it was more profitable than being a chefSOMLYAY (Erik’s company)Does private events, education (including with the Smithsonian), a wine writer, private cellar consulting, and hospitality/wine list consultingHas done >300 private events in the past year, primarily virtualWrote an article called “Snake Oil for Sale: The Dirty Business of Clean Wine” (pg16) for the Sept / Oct 2021 issue of The Tasting Panel magazineThe impetus for the article - Erik always gets the same questions during consumer events around sulfites, natural/clean/healthy/“better for you” winesHe gets lots of ads using manipulative advertising around the winesDefinition of Clean WineIt’s an invented word. There is no definition, no standards - it doesn’t actually mean anythingImplies other wines are “unclean”Drivers of the clean wine trendMillennials have taken over as the dominant wine buying cohort. They like “healthy,” and the trend is playing to their preferencesCelebrity endorsements backing trend (e.g., Cameron Diaz’s Avaline)Clean wine claims are not false but spreading misinformation and are “lying by omission”E.g., all wines are gluten-freeVegan - sometimes animal products (e.g., egg whites) are used in fining but not really put into wineOrganic - does not mean any chemicals, just no synthetic chemicals (e.g., sulfites are organic and a good thing - required to make wine otherwise, nature turns grape juice into vinegar)Additives - there can be bad ones (e.g., Velcorin, which is hazardous in large quantities, and Mega Purple, which adds color and sweetness)Need to distinguish between “industrially produced wines” and “commercially produced”Industrial wines are mainly on the bottom shelf of retail and are highly manipulated wines (e.g., use lots of additives)Commercially produced can be well-produced wines, even at a commercial scaleClean wine “obscures transparency”They often manipulate where the wines are produced (e.g., don’t mention where the grapes are grown, only that they are produced and bottled in a specific place)Targets naive consumersAn excellent example of transparency - Ridge Vineyards - has ingredient labeling and all relevant details on the label Get access to library episodes Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.
Released:
Jan 26, 2022
Format:
Podcast episode

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A podcast delivering wine perspectives ex-chateau. Insights, analysis, and perspectives on news and trends in the wine industry beyond winemaking, such as marketing, finance, and consumer trends. From noted wine blogger Robert Vernick (@wineterroir) and leading wine business consultant and author of Luxury Wine Marketing Peter Yeung (@winebizguy), this podcast navigates the business of wine with unique perspectives and insights. Get access to library episodes Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.