On today's episode, Dr. Jaime interviews Nutritional Therapist & Ancestrally Based Practitioner, J Gulinello MS, CNSc, FNTP. J and Kathleen share a love for optimizing wellness through connecting back with an ancestral way of life. Through their own individual journeys they met as group leaders for the Nutritional Therapy Association. As their friendship grew, their passion for helping to educate and support others through a deeply rejuvenating nature-inspired and community focused retreat center started to come to fruition, and Perpetual Health became a place where all are encouraged to connect back to their ancestral roots. Learn more at https://www.perpetualhealth.co/.