This week's guest Vesa Tormanen grew up in Finland, first amazed by the computers running at the government pension fund where his parents worked. He hit university at the perfect time, as fellow Finn Linus Torvalds was creating Linux, a classmate was inventing ssh, and the web browser came of age. We talk about Nokia's history and Apple's future, as well as how his current company Neurala is using AI to accelerate and improve product and materials inspection.   Twitter: @vesatormanen Neurala https://www.neurala.com/ Sinclair Spectrum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum Rare Games on ZX Spectrum: https://www.denofgeek.com/games/the-15-greatest-zx-spectrum-games-ever-made/ SSH (Secure Shell): https://www.ssh.com/academy/ssh Nokia: https://www.nokia.com/