Dutch designer Hella Jongerius is one the most respected talents in the industry, and her mastery of form and color has influenced the design world in immeasurable ways. On this episode, Dan speaks with the legend about how she got started, her theories on color, and why we should rethink the concept of ownership to become more sustainable. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.