Today's episode was a live podcast episode for Ari's Take Academy students with guests Rogét Chahayed and his manager Greg Katz. Rogét is a Grammy-nominated producer and songwriter whose songs have sold over 30 million copies. He's worked with some of the biggest names in the business, including Halsey, Travis Scott, Drake, Miguel, G-Eazy, Ke$ha, Calvin Harris, Carly Rae Jepsen, and more.We got into both the production and business sides. We discussed producer points, splits, songwriter credits, publishing, and how to get a publishing deal. Rogét also gives great advice to aspiring songwriters and producers on how to get started.This podcast was live for Ari's Take Academy students. At the end of the conversation, they were able to ask Rogét and Greg questions.--Quick links:2:45 - How Rogét went from studying classical music to working with Dr Dre8:04 - About Rogét's first production11:00 - How Greg started managing Rogét13:45 - Being under credited and what that was like16:35 - Advice to artists and producers on how to protect themselves from being under credited and screwed21:25 - What's the difference between a songwriter and producer? 24:04 - When do you discuss splits?27:50 - Breaking down the producer point system30:08 - Is it more common to get an upfront producer fee or a backend royalty at Rogét's level? 35:20 - Breaking down Rogét's publishing deal with Kobalt40:11 - Pointers to songwriters when looking for a publisher/publishing deal44:30 - Student questions58:28 - What it means to Rogét and Greg to make it in the new music business--Connect with Ari’s Take:Website: https://aristake.comAcademy: https://aristakeacademy.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTakeYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/Connect with Ari Herstand:Website: https://ariherstand.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstandTwitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstandYouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstandFacebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstandConnect with Rogét Chahayed:Twitter: https://twitter.com/RogetChahayedInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/rogetchahayed/ Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.