Zach speaks with Sarah Hoffman and Kendra Kawala, co-founders of Maker Wine, a direct-to-consumer canned wine company focused on highlighting smaller producers in California, about their business, the ways in which it has changed since the Covid-19 pandemic, and how they're aiming to grow. Please send any suggestions or requests for future Conversations to podcast@vinepair.com. Thanks for listening, and be well. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.