In Episode #206, Drew Harrisberg joins me to debrief The Proof’s first debate and discuss blood tests, sleep, and the interaction between HIIT training and blood glucose.Last week, I released a special episode on YouTube: a debate on seed oils and heart disease between Tucker Goodrich and Dr Matthew Nagra. You can find it here. Regardless of whether you’ve watched the debate, you’ll gain insight from the reflections we share in this episode.Our discussion of this debate covers the interpretation of studies, consistency of arguments, and whether either argument was compelling enough to change our minds. Moving on from the debate, you’ll also learn about how sleep interacts with calorie consumption, blood glucose and HIIT training, and blood tests you may want to request. Drew and I also offer insights into our own diets, and I share some results from a recent blood test.Specifically, we cover:Intro [0:00] Training [3:40] The Seed Oil Debate [12:03] Understanding Healthy ApoB Levels [55:25] The Biohacking Trap [1:07:08] CGMs for People without Diabetes [1:17:30] HIIT for Diabetes [1:28:13] Sleep Deprivation & Weight Gain [1:51:55] Clarifying the Mediterranean diet [2:03:00] The “Kale Buster” [2:08:32] Good News [2:16:11] Book/ Show Recommendations [2:25:44] Answering Your Questions [2:33:36] Outro [2:36:40]To connect with Drew, you can reach him via his Instagram or website, Drew’s Daily Dose. You can also listen to his previous appearances on the show on your favourite podcast app.The Proof partner, Eimele Essential 8, made today’s episode possible. Eimele Essential 8 offers the right nutrients, in the right doses, to complement a plant-rich diet. To save 5% on your first order, head to theproof.com/friends.Make sure to head to The Proof website for the full show notes.Enjoy, friends.SimonWant to support the show?If you are enjoying The Proof a great way to support the show is by leaving a review on the Apple Podcasts or a comment on YouTube . It only takes a few minutes and helps more people find the episodes.Simon Hill, Msc, Bsc (Hons)Creator of Theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon HillAuthor of The Proof is in the PlantsWatch the episodes on YouTube, or Listen on Apple/SpotifyConnect with me on Instagram, Twitter and FacebookDownload my complimentary two week meal plan and plant performance