I am doing something I have never done in any podcast episode. For the first time, I am bringing you an interview I did on another podcast, where someone interviewed me. My dear friend Rebecca Ching has a podcast called The Unburdened Leader. It was such a fantastic conversation and I am so grateful that she said, “Yes,” when I asked her if I could air it for my listeners. We talked about a lot of hard things, including grief and addiction.  On 9/27, I celebrated nine years of sobriety and recovery from alcoholism. It is something we talked about in this particular episode. I share how commitment to my values helped me maintain my continued healing and sobriety and how grief nearly brought me out of recovery.  In this episode you’ll hear:  My addiction to alcohol and what it symbolized. Why I needed to understand and heal my traumas in order to fully unburden the last of my addictions. Perfection, control, and overachieving worked until it didn’t. Drinking worked for a while until it didn’t.  The role community plays in my sobriety.