Phil, Lonnie and Rob hear from Johnny -Pain- Schaeffer. He talks about his background, garage lifting, injuries, etc. Then there's some discussion on how much frequency and volume are really needed for rapid physical change. There's a difference between overtraining and just being a wus. ***NOTE: We are about to start our Winter Iron Radio fund raiser / donation drive. In a sense we are like Public Radio; please help us stay on the air by going to www.IronRadio.org and clicking the DONATE button. Thanks - fifty times!***