Dimity and Sarah have a digital sit-down with Katie Arnold, an ultramarathoner with two young daughters, to discuss a wide range of topics. Find out why D & S quickly dub this long-time runner, “Katie of the Massive Quads,” and how legendary Dean Karnazes figures into Katie’s journey to tackling—and often winning—ultra-distance races. Katie opens up about how running has brought her through hard times, including the death of her father, and how running allows her to “be wild” in her own world. After reading from her essay in Tales from Another Mother Runner, Katie talks about “free-range parenting,” a topic she often explores in her Outside Online column, Raising Rippers.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices