This conversation explores the theme of leadership and the importance of building relationships in effective leadership. The discussion highlights examples of leadership from the movie Saving Private Ryan and the director of professional development (at the time the article was written) for the National Association of Independent Schools, Dave Mallory. The conversation also includes an exercise to reflect on positive and negative experiences with leaders and the impact of relationships in leadership.    Takeaways; Effective leadership is never without the attribute of building relationships. Leadership is about caring and forming connections with others. Positive leadership experiences leave a lasting impact and evoke feelings of respect, value, and happiness. Poor leadership can have negative effects and create a sense of discomfort or fear. Building relationships is a powerful tool in leadership and can create a safe and trusting environment. Understanding oneself and one's relationship with others is essential in effective leadership. High 5 Symposium - https://store.high5adventure.org/products/adventure-practitioners-symposium-1-day?utm_source=copyToPasteBoard&utm_medium=product-links&utm_content=web&_ga=2.244240269.92209463.1712521573-69781410.1683822041 Contact the podcast -  Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and sound effects - epidemicsound.com