In this episode, the conversation focuses on the relationship between Carmy and Richie. It explores how their childhood friendship and non-family family dynamic contribute to their connection, the importance of building a strong foundation and trust in organizations is highlighted, as well as the impermanence of conflict and the need for touchstones and norms. The concept of finding purpose and aligning with a mission is discussed, along with the significance of supporting personal discoveries. The episode also delves into the appreciation for behind-the-scenes work and the value of authenticity and inclusion. Finally, it emphasizes that different purposes can still lead in the same direction.   Takeaways; Building a strong foundation and trust is crucial in relationships and organizations. Conflict can be impermanent if there is a strong foundation and common purpose. Supporting personal discoveries and allowing organic growth is important in leadership. Appreciating behind-the-scenes work and valuing authenticity and inclusion contribute to a positive organizational culture. Connect with us - Email - podcast@high5adventure.org Instagram - @verticalplaypen Music and Sound effects - epidemicsound.com