Summary In this conversation, Sander and Don discuss their journey in public speaking and share their experiences and insights. They talk about how they started doing public speaking, the challenges they faced, and the lessons they learned along the way. They emphasize the importance of having a supportive network, being open to feedback, and continuously improving their presentations. They also discuss the cultural differences they encountered at different conferences and the impact of their talks on the audience. They conclude by sharing their plans for the future, including exploring speaking opportunities outside of the agile community. Keywords public speaking, journey, challenges, lessons, feedback, cultural differences, networking, improvement, future plans Takeaways Start doing public speaking by finding a supportive network and being open to feedback. Continuously improve your presentations based on feedback and lessons learned. Be aware of cultural differences at different conferences and adapt your approach accordingly. Engage with the audience and create a dialogue during your talk. Explore speaking opportunities outside of your comfort zone to gain new perspectives and experiences. Check out our sponsors: www.wiserbees.com www.xebia.com www.scrummatch.com www.masteringagility.org Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 01:00 Starting in Public Speaking 10:30 Supportive Network and Structure 13:20 Lessons Learned and Continuous Improvement 21:30 Choosing Conferences and Networking 25:40 Feedback and Integration 31:00 Future Plans and Topics