It’s finally here, after months of ghosting and self reflection from Max, it turns out his friendship with Ben Earl is real and the ultimate gaslighting was merely an illusion. 

It’s a bumper episode with Ben Earl as he talks us through his time playing at Bristol with Max, the ups and downs and a particular man of the match performance which was all the sweeter for how it came to be in the first place. 

Ben takes us through his World Cup experience and putting all the pressure on himself before the Fiji game. 

He talks us through 24th man beer fears and what was the most powerful driver for some of Sarries best performances.

There’s a lot of honesty around his England aspirations and how he felt under Eddie Jones. There’s even more honesty around how ridiculous he thought Max looked in his new scrum cap.

He also gives us his take on media furore around his celebrations, Sarries and Faz

It’s England’s Future Captain (in our minds) Under the Microscope