This episode I talk Nancy Diniz, an architect and teacher from Portugal who is heading and developing the world first “Bio Design” Programme which explores the intersection of design and biology at Central Saint Martins in London. In addition, we talk about the opportunity of that intersection and how design and science can drive change and move the worlds towards more sustainable solutions, buildings, products, services, businesses and more. In the programme designer from all backgrounds work closely with biology and find new paths.Nancy experienced working in design education and research in the USA and China and has a well understanding of the relationship between science and design, and how both can enlarging their impact by working together. Nancy’s insights are an eye-opener about how designers can take a stronger part in driving sustainability and fields that a new, untapped, unexplored but have tremendous opportunity and impact.If you want to learn more about her and the programme: https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/central-saint-martins/people/nancy-dinizFurthermore we tap into the difference between the Italian and Canadian design scene and where he things heading in terms of the evolution of design and specifically service design. In addition we talk about the impact design can have on society and how is driving change.Antonio is a Service Designer at Partner at Studio Wé in Canada, Visiting Lecturer at UAL and Masters Candidate, Human Systems Intervention.