Zach is joined by dairy farmer Jean-Francois Marmier and winemaker Raphael Pommier to discuss the interconnected legacies of Comté cheese and Côtes du Rhône wine, how these artisanal products are the result of a great deal of human labor and ingenuity, and some of the best ways to enjoy them. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review VinePair on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to podcast@vinepair.com. Thanks for listening, and be well.Instagram: @adamteeter, @jcsciarrino, @zgeballe, @vinepairThis podcast is co-funded by the European Union. Views and opinions expressed are however those of the authors only and do not necessarily reflect those of the European Union or FranceAgriMer. Neither the European Union nor the granting authority can be held responsible for them. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.