In this episode, Ingrid describes the evolution of her visual thinking journey which now plays a crucial role in assisting both creative professionals and business owners in understanding their client's experiences through Big Picture storyboarding.Sponsored by ConceptsThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Concepts, a perfect tool for sketchnoting, available on iOS, Windows, and Android.Concepts' vector-based drawing feature gives you the power to adjust your drawings saving hours and hours of rework.Vectors provide clean, crisp, high-resolution output for your sketchnotes at any size you need s ideal for sketchnoting.SEARCH in your favorite app store to give it a try.Running OrderIntroWelcomeWho is Ingrid LillOrigin StoryIngrid Lill's current workSponsor: ConceptsTipsToolsWhere to find Ingrid LillOutroLinksAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Mike Rohde’s Big Idea Sketchiest with IngridDonald Miller's book - Building a StoryBrandTim Urban's book - Wait But Why?WebsiteMembership siteLinkedInYoutubeToolsAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.ConceptsiPad ProAdobe IllustratorWacom CintiqProcreateNeuland flexible tip markerNeuland art markersBlack fineliner penInk tinsPencilsWaterbrushWatercolorA3 Smooth paperTipsMessage first. Use your drawing to communicate.Keep it simple.Experiment. Use your art on your everyday use.CreditsProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerShownotes and transcripts: Esther OdoroSubscribe to the Sketchnote Army PodcastYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube or your favorite podcast listening source.Support the PodcastTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde’s bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!Episode TranscriptMike Rohde: Hey everyone, it's Mike, and I'm here with Ingrid Lill. Ingrid, it's so good to have you on the show. Thanks for coming.Ingrid Lill: Thank you, Mike for having me. You're one of my heroes, one of the first ones who taught me how to sketch note.MR: Oh, thank you. That's so nice of you. Well, you know, probably we'll get into it a little bit is some of the work that we did together, but I think before we get into that discussion, I would love for you to sort of set the context. Who are you and what do you do with the work that you do?IL: My name is Ingrid Lill. I'm originally from Germany. I've been living in Denmark for 20 years on the countryside. And I—should I tell my whole story already now?MR: Sure. That was my next question is how did you end up in the place where you are? Maybe start—IL: Maybe first, what I'm doing now.MR: Yeah.IL: I am a communication designer turn business coach with a pencil. I am helping coaches, consultants, and creatives, and whoever needs to do that, clarify their message through visual thinking, and I do that on several levels.MR: Cool.IL: Yeah.MR: And you've done that with me. So we can talk about that in the future. I would love to hear now, how did you end up in that place? You talked about being a communication designer. It sounds like from our discussions before, what you did wasn't so far away from what I did when I came out of university, which was graphic design.IL: That's true.MR: Yeah.IL: That's true, graphic design, yeah, yeah.MR: Really old-school graphic design with pens and—IL: Really old school.MR: —rulers and all that old stuff.IL: Yeah, yeah. I mean, as a child, I drew, and as many people who are drawing and want to also make money, I studied graphic design. And I had drawing and painting at the side as an artist and made graphic design and all this visual communication stuff to make money.When I started out on it, when I graduated, there were no computers, so we did actually hand-drawn layouts which was fun, but that disappeared when computers came on the scene. And then for many years, all the drawing was really