Is trauma a necessary tool? Could something easy be productive? What’s your current mental health fixation? We’ve been waiting two years to get all four of us in a room to philosophize with our fellow mental health sisters—the Okay Sis x TMV crossover is finally here! We welcomed Scout Sobel and Mady Maio to the show with one giant unpacking, touching on everything from self-optimization, hustle culture, the benefits of trauma, and so much more. 0:00 Intro6:44 Mady’s unpacking14:55 How could something easy be productive?17:54 Stress just to be stressed22:22 Is trauma a necessary tool? 30:02 Trauma makes us who we are33:32 Scout’s unpacking38:16 Allegory for suicide42:05 Mady’s mental health fixation45:16 Scout’s mental health fixation Don’t forget to listen to us on Okay Sis! Find the episode here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/okay-sis/id1434353917?i=1000630670055ALL THINGS SCOUT + MADY:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/okay-sis/id1434353917?ign-itscg=30200&ign-itsct=lt_phttps://www.instagram.com/okaysispodcast/https://www.instagram.com/scoutsobel/https://www.instagram.com/madymaio/Don’t forget to DM us on IG or submit a question on thoughtsmayvary.com to have your question or theme unpacked on a future episode! SHOP “CO-CREATE” TMV’S MANIFESTATION JOURNAL: https://www.thoughtsmayvary.com/the-tmv-shopDiscount codes, extra unpackings, journal prompts, vlogging (+more!) all happening with our familia over on Patreon. Come hang out — https://www.patreon.com/thoughtsmayvary?️ Listen anywhere you get your podcasts ?️? Watch episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@thoughtsmayvary  ? Follow along, we're funny on the internet sometimeshttps://www.thoughtsmayvary.com/https://www.instagram.com/thoughtsmayvarypodhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thoughtsmayvarypodThreads @thoughtsmayvarypodMeadow: https://www.instagram.com/itsmeadowlarkGaby: https://www.instagram.com/gabyulloa_DISCLAIMER: We are not licensed professionals. If you are seeking licensed and professional mental health support, please reach out to 741-741 (The Crisis Text Line) or The NAMI Helpline or The Trevor Project or reach out to us for more resources.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy