We've launched a platform at patreon.com/popfictionwomen to keep making the podcast you love -- and to make it even better. For a one time contribution to support this episode, use venmo @ carinn-jade. Thank you and enjoy the show!!We deep dive into this iconic movie, an eminently rewatchable cultural phenomenon with not one, but two, complicated and strong female leads played by the brilliant Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway. *** We travel back to 2006 when the movie came out, discussing how it got made, how it differs from the book, and how Meryl played hard ball on her salary. (02:15)*** The Devil Wears Prada fought a lot of blockbuster movies to ultimately win the zeitgeist wars, but does it still hold up? Does it feel dated? Or maybe anti-feminist? Kate raises the oft-mentioned criticisms of the movie. (12:10)*** Complicated Woman Rating - Miranda Priestly, one of the best villains in movie history, is someone to be equally feared and revered. Would we feel differently if Miranda was a man? (23:33)*** Complicated Woman Rating - Andy is our heroine and clearly her journey drives the story, but Carinn wants to see more plucky and scrappy and less whining. What Andy lacks, though, Emily (played by breakout star Emily Blunt) makes up for with her hard-driving pursuit of her dreams. (35:55)*** Scenes - Carinn loves the scene where Nigel (Stanley Tucci) gives Andy a wake up call -- you are not trying, you're whining -- which finally causes Andy to change on the inside and the outside, ultimately letting us see the scrappy side of Andy (43:00); Kate has to bring us back to the iconic “cerulean blue sweater” scene where Miranda puts Andy in her place and reminds her of the domino effect of her influence (47:21); Carinn can’t believe how good the clothing montage is and how the fashion still holds up over time (51:24); Kate talks about Meryl’s vulnerable scene in the hotel room where we get a glimpse of the woman in the business woman and the brilliant writing of this screenplay really shines (52:30); Carinn discusses when Andy tries to warn Miranda about the coup for her job and how Miranda’s response subverts our expectations in the best way (56:40); Kate ends with Andy and Miranda’s heart-to-heart in the car in Paris where Miranda gives Andy a dose of reality, causing us to examine what ambition really means. (58:28) *** What She Said on screenwriter Aline Brosh McKenna. She's a fire sign like DWP author Lauren Weisberger -- and the ladies of Pop Fiction Women! Kate shares a conversation McKenna had with Nora Ephron about making it as a woman filmmaker. Carinn highlights a quote about female anti heroes and how the final frontier is for women to get to be an asshole. (63:11)*** Takeaways. Carinn is focused on success and what that means: commercial success or cultural impact and creatively meaningful? Kate loves Meryl’s inspiration for Miranda Priestly -- the low but commanding voice of Clint Eastwood -- and wonders whether she could employ that in her day-to-day professional life. (78:20)Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. To do a full deep dive, check out our website at www.popfictionwomen.com. Stay Complicated!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.