In this riveting follow-up conversation, Jeff speaks with IFS founder Richard Schwartz. In this dialogue, they go deeper into the meaningful distinction between a notion of unity consciousness (and non-duality) that is dissociated from the self, and one that we arrive at organically, as a result of doing the work to heal, honor and integrate the core self. And they explore the relationship between the soul and the self, our guides and our encoded directionality, the meaningful distinction between couples that belong together (soulmates) and couples that perhaps don’t (woundmates). Links and Resources:Grounded Spirituality… https://www.amazon.com/Grounded-Spirituality-Jeff-Brown/dp/1988648033/Soulshaping… https://jeffbrown.co/soulshaping-a-journey-of-self-creation/Jeff Brown’s website and healing courses… https://jeffbrown.co/courses/Richard’s new website... https://ifs-institute.com/Richard’s newest book... https://www.amazon.com/No-Bad-Parts-Restoring-Wholeness/dp/1683646681/Trevor Hall’s website… https://www.trevorhallmusic.com/Trevor Hall’s album, ‘The Fruitful Darkness’… https://open.spotify.com/album/4ahv1YI2hpYOtXZsTIqYyG