In this raw and real dialogue from 2019, Jeff and author-mystic Andrew Harvey discuss Jeff's book, Grounded Spirituality. They discuss patriarchal spirituality, the "New Cage Movement", and the current crisis that humanity faces. If ever there was a time to ground our spirituality in reality, it's now.Links and Resources: Grounded Spirituality (book): https://www.amazon.com/Grounded-Spirituality-Jeff-Brown/dp/1988648033/An Uncommon Bond (book): https://www.amazon.com/Uncommon-Bond-Jeff-Brown/dp/0980885957/Jeff's Healing, Transformative Download courses: https://jeffbrown.co/courses/Andrew Harvey's Website: https://www.andrewharvey.net/Trevor Hall's song 'Arrows': https://open.spotify.com/track/3PQIdQjXZQlRT2hoURf9Zs