In the first episode of Spiraling Higher, Samantha Chung and Gina Bourne have a provocative conversation about their struggles around trauma and what they learned in the process. One thing for sure is that it is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel, however, forcing oneself to see the end goal helps make the journey worthwhile.Follow Spiraling Higher:InstagramFollow Simplifying Sam:TiktokInstagramFollow Gina:TiktokInstagramTimestamps:0:40 Sam talks about her struggles and what she has gotten out of it in the process.10:50 All healing is inner child healing19:28 Learning to forgive oneself leads to better relationships28:01 One should first learn to love themselves before seeking outside validation. Being able to subjectively see yourself for who you are and how others see you.38:37 The feeling of constantly being unsatisfied in our lives.46:10 Fear and pain leads to growth