Anna Larsson, Vice President, Global Head of Sustainability, Wallenius Wilhelmsen Logistics and Chair of the Trident Alliance. Anna Larsson explains that the Trident Alliance is an industry grouping working for robust enforcement of the new sulphur regulations. When the #SECA areas was introduced, the authorities didn't talk a lot about how to make sure that everyone followed the new regulations. Now the "good guys", who have invested heavily and are following the sulphur regulations putting pressure on the national governments and their authorities to follow up on those who doesn't, the "bad guys". Anna is of the opinion that there is a need for sanctions that really hearts if we are supposed to reach the proper benefits from the new regulations, the "sulphur effect". We discuss what will happen in 2020, we touch upon innovations, where Anna thinks that the shipping industry need to open up to outside influence and gives the ORCELLE AWARD as a good example on how WWL every year gets 70-80 examples of good environmental improvements that can be put into operations. Link to the ORCELLE concept ship Listen to episode 39 with Anna Larsson and sign up for the newsletter to Shipping Podcast Lovers here