Internal Medicine Physician, founder of End Well, and host of the Ted Health podcast Dr. Shoshana Ungerleider joins your hosts to discuss palliative care and changing the conversation around death in healthcare. She talks about how she decided to take on more as it relates to palliative care, and shares one of many stories that informed how she spoke and thought about end-of-life care. She discusses the stigma around talking about death and dying, and the negative effects of dismissing these conversations in our society. They discuss how the pandemic has changed people’s relationship with death, and the systemic issues evident in our healthcare system today. Shoshana speaks to the distress in medicine that comes from families disagreeing with patient's desires, and her goals with the End Well project, including the need for more people to be part of the conversation. 
To get more from Dr. Shoshana Ungerleider, you can follow her on Instagram @shoshanamd. Plus, be sure to check out endwellproject.org and the Ted Health podcast wherever you listen.  
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