A positive episode, to help you through difficult times! I speak to two friends Taymoor Atighetchi and Tobias Vernon about their creative businesses. Taymoor is the CEO of Papier - my favourite stationery company and Tobias is the founder of 8 Holland Street - a beautifully curated gallery space in London and Bath. The two met over a decade go when they both studied Art History in Cambridge, and they have supported each other ever since.   Presented by Justyna Green Produced by James Green