Hunter Farris is a musician who analyzes the music psychology behind why we like the songs we like, how sounds can produce emotions, as well as the actual science of how this happens. His podcast Song Appeal works to uncover some of the secrets behind famous hits and can be found wherever you listen to your podcasts, or at http://songappealofficial.com/.

"If there is a formula for pop music, people don't want to do it. They want to consider their work an art and a craft"

On today's episode, Konner and Hunter discuss soundtracks in movies and how it works to guide and mould the way you feel. Hunter goes through a few examples of how composers make you feel certain things, such as stress and sadness. Hunter also schools Konner on why the idea of "algorithms" making successful pop music might not be so accurate.