Dr. Wanda Wallace, Managing Partner of Leadership Forum, LLC, is committed to changing the world by helping people improve the quality of their conversations. As a globally recognized leadership expert, the Out of the Comfort Zone radio show host coaches leaders, conducts seminars and works with teams to improve their leadership capability. In recent years, much of her work has focused on helping women “get to the top, stick, and thrive” and—as an extension of that work—the potential trap for both women and men who are perceived as “expert" leaders, a topic she explores in her book, You Can’t Know It All: Leading in an Age of Deep Expertise.  In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, Jeff talks with Wanda about the qualities of great leaders including the importance of quality conversations and the necessary mindset to be an effective leader. They also discuss her work related to women in leadership and what it means to be an expert leader versus a spanning leader. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode205.  Thank you to our sponsors for this quarter: ** Authentic Learning Labs is an e-learning company that offers products and services to help improve your current investments in education. One key product is Authentic Analytics, a dedicated suite of visualization reports to help analyze and predict the performance of education programs. Organizations use Authentic Analytics to easily scan through volumes of data in intuitive visuals, chart performance trends, and quickly spot opportunities, issues, and potential future needs. Find out more at https://www.leadinglearning.com/goto/authentic.   CommPartners helps learning businesses conceive, develop, and fulfill their online education strategy. Their solutions begin with Elevate LMS, an award-winning learning platform that provides a central knowledge community and drives learner engagement. To extend the value of Elevate, CommPartners provides a wide range of online education services including curriculum design, instructional design, fully managed Webinars, Webcasts, livestream programs, and virtual conferences. Find out more at https://www.leadinglearning.com/goto/commpartners.