In this episode of Ever Forward Radio, Chase speaks with Drew Manning on his second iteration of Fit2Fat2Fit. Drew embarked on another Fit2Fat2Fit journey in 2020, nine years after his first run back in 2011. He shares how humbled he was during that first experiment and how it nurtured in him something that motivated him to take on this journey one more time: empathy.   “Empathy is something that is lacking in the fitness industry,” he says. “But this world lacks empathy as well.” With all the divisiveness that took place in 2020, Drew thought the time was ripe to relive Fit2Fat2Fit, not just to shine an inspiring light in the midst of all the chaos this year has brought, but also because there are even more opportunities on social media to get eyes on the project now compared to nine years ago.   "Sometimes, I think it takes something crazy to catch people’s attention and motivate them in a different and unique way that they haven’t ever experienced before."   Drew’s ultimate goal is to bring more empathy to the industry and to society as a whole. He says: “I feel like doing it a second time can really disrupt the industry by showing that it’s more of a mental and emotional journey for people who struggle with weight loss.”   Key Highlights Drew explains how he prepared his family, mentally and emotionally, for his 2020 Fit2Fat2Fit journey, and why this second run is harder than the first. With the intention of making this journey more educational the second time around, Drew decided to regularly track his biomarkers (ex. heart rate, blood sugar, etc.). He goes into the thought process behind his decision. It was obviously much riskier in 2020 for Drew to let himself become as unhealthy as he let himself be. He shares how he set safety precautions for himself amid COVID season. Why did Drew decide on this particular outlandish, risky gesture as his vehicle for disrupting the fitness industry? Drew’s advice for someone who is unhealthy to take their first step in the right direction. Episode resources: Save $5 on your variety pack of Magic Spoon: https://www.magicspoon.com/everforward  Join Drew on his journey Back2Fit Drew's original interview in episode 49 WHOOP 3.0 physical activity tracker - get yours for FREE and save 15% off of new memberships when you use checkout code CHASE Cured Nutrition CBD for pain relief, calming aid, sleep aid, muscle recovery, wellness benefits and so much more - use checkout code EVERFORWARD to save 15% off