In today's episode I talk to Brandon Zhang (@brandonthezhang) who at 19 years old, landed an apprenticeship with Jack Butcher from Visualize Value.Like a lot of the guests on this show, Brandon didn't just apply to be an apprentice, in fact there was no job opening. It all started when Jack agreed to be interviewed on his podcast...In this episode, we dive deep into the strategies that Brandon used to convince Jack Butcher to come on his small podcast, but also how he transformed a simple podcast interview into a dream job opportunity.... Brandon even shares the exact DMs and emails he sent.SHOW NOTES: 02:58 How everything started with Twitter08:29 Sharing the exact DMs and emails he used to get in touch15:35 Why "Permissionless Apprenticeships" are the future of work21:00 What does a mentorship style apprenticeship look like24:03 Biggest lessons from the apprenticeship29:20 Using his podcast again to land a job at OnDeck39:20 Starting his own entrepreneurial projects45:45 Advice for people who want to follow a similar path52:40 Brandon's plan for the next 10 yearsLinks and resources from this episode:Link to Visualize Value program: https://visualizevalue.com/products/the-permissionless-apprenticeLink to Brandon's course: https://makersmark.schoolGo follow Brandon on Twitter: https://twitter.com/brandonthezhangAnd if you're reading this, don't be shy! Shoot me a DM on Instagram/Twitter and let me know what you thought of this episode or let me know if you have any questions! My handle is @jeremyjohnmary!