Kelly talks to author, created and “soberish” lifestyle advocate, Kayla Lyons about what it means to be sober-ish. The sometimes controversial “soberish” mindset and the sliding scale of alcohol use disorder are unpacked and Kelly talks about her issues with the movement as Kayla explains why the expanded mindset actually has the potential to help more people and re-define people’s relationship to alcohol on a grander scale.Socials: @kaylerlyons, @joinsoberishPodcast: Generation Dry PodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.