This week, Chief Neil Dubord is joined again by James Hardy who has been in policing for more than 4 decades, he was with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police then over to the  Calgary Police Service, and later developed a consulting career.   This episode is the second part of an amazing conversation with James. He shares how a large team of police officers investigated the murder of 4 RCMP officers on a rural property in Alberta in 2005. In addition to investigating the murder, James was one of the senior members in charge of making sure the mental health of his team was taken care of, and he speaks of the increasing importance of continuing to care for officers mental wellness 17 years after the tragedy