On this weeks episode, Ian is joined by Christopher Doyle, founder of the independent creative studio, Christopher Doyle & Co. based in Sydney.In this interview, we discuss how Chris started his career by getting a job at Saachi & Sacchi despite a bad interview. The lessons he learned at the agency. The importance of working with language within his design work. Design books that have been important to him. How he started his own independent creative agency, how they come up with great ideas, creating culture in an agency, and the use of humour in website copy.This episode is sponsored by The Perfect Match, a game where designers submit mood boards created using Adobe Stock assets. If your skilful project is chosen, you will be featured on Adobe's monthly live streaming game show with other talented designers, art directors, and creatives, where the winner goes home with $750!