Horses. Kristin talks about them a lot. We needed a refresher, however, on the details of how horses actually help human beings with their mental health, especially trauma. Andy Kaufmann joins in the discussion to also pinpoint how non-riding therapeutic work with horses can help everyone. He is one of the founders of Checkpoint One which is non-profit that helps veterans and other first responders with trauma, PTSD, mental illness, and mental wellbeing. www.checkpointone.orgwww.stepstoneconnect.com