Jo is joined by Claudia Winkleman, beloved co-presenter of Strictly Come Dancing and one of GLAMOUR’s favourite people, to discuss things that matter, and things that really don’t.

Assistant Editor Lindsay Frankel and Fashion Features Editor Ella Alexander join Jo and Claudia in the impossibly tiny pod-cupboard to talk about whether you should end a friendship that isn’t working, being considered “boring” if you don’t drink alcohol, and how to embrace the art of really bad dancing.

Music by Martin Austwick and edited by Kat Brown

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