Marian Keyes, bestselling author and beauty junkie extraordinaire, joins Jo in the podcupboard to chat about Making It Up As I Go Along, her collection of journalism and essays now available in in paperback.

Accompanying them is Claudia Mahoney, Executive Fashion and Beauty Director and guardian of GLAMOUR's longest job titles. Together they ask: is it OK to hate Christmas - or really adore it? Can you be a good feminist and still love makeup, and romance novels? (And why are so many things that women like judged to be lacking?)

Music by Martin Austwick, podcast edited by Kat Brown

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