Today's conversation is with Ged Sumner about his book Body Intelligence Meditation. - Is traditional meditation treating the body like a machine to be broken? - Is it therefore anti-body and therefore leading to dissociative instead of enlightened states? - Can deep shifts in our physiology happen simply by engaging in somatic meditation and inviting our deep intelligence to arise? And why does that sound so totally ludicrous to people?- How the greatest miracle is that we seem solid at all. - Have become too obsessed with pathology and not engaged enough with what feels good?- Are we bliss-phobic as a culture and how do we get some of that yummy, juicy, waiting for us bliss back?