Is God's Existence Logical? Scientific Truths vs. Myths Called Science.

By Bob Thiel, Ph.D.

Either there is a God that created everything or there isn’t. There is no third option. If there is no God, then everything in the universe, including the universe itself, had to exist for all eternity. The material in the universe would have to “have had no beginning”. If the material universe did not exist for all eternity, where did it come from? Did something come from nothing? This, in and of itself, defies all logic. If we take the position that the material universe did exist for all eternity, we are still stuck with the question of – where did all the material in the universe come from in the first place? The only answer is still – it still came from nothing. Well, actually there is another answer but that brings us full circle to the existence of a Creator God.

Dr. Thiel discusses many facts of science and physics that all point to the logical conclusion that there must have been something that created the physical universe. It couldn’t have just popped into existence in a Big Bang. He also explores some points put forth by some scientists and physicists that offer their own personal theories about the creation of the universe and humanity.

When learning of the overwhelming mathematical odds against life, atheist and astronomer Fred Hoyle was stunned. Here is an excerpt from Dr. Thiel’s book: Fred Hoyle, the astronomer who coined the term “big bang,” said that his atheism was “greatly shaken” at these developments. He later wrote that “a common-sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a super-intellect has monkeyed with the physics, as well as with chemistry and biology . . . . The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question.”

At least we read that Mr. Hoyle was, at least, willing to acknowledge the possibility that he may have to change his position on atheism. Now listen to the comments form a Nobel Prize winner, also taken from Dr. Thiel’s book.

Nobel Prize winner Dr. George Wald, from Harvard University, stated the following: The reasonable view was to believe in spontaneous generation (life from nothing); the only alternative, to believe in a single, primary act of supernatural creation. There is no third position . . . One has only to contemplate the magnitude of this task to concede that the spontaneous generation of a living organism is impossible. Yet here we are, as a result I believe, of spontaneous generation (bolding in original).

Dr. Wald actually concedes that the only explanation for life is supernatural creation, yet he refuses to believe it. That statement goes beyond denying what is logical. That statement is an open admission of self-delusion.

Dr. Thiel goes on to discuss the laws of thermodynamics and the rate of decay of radioactive materials. He discusses Dr. Hawkings’ theory of “imaginary time”. He addresses Dr. Dawkins’ novel “The God Delusion”. There is also an interesting discussion on Charles Darwin and the complexity of DNA, information that wasn’t available when Dr. Darwin wrote “The Origin of Species”.

Whether you believe in a Creator God or a Big Bang, this book approaches the subject from a purely logical point of view. Yes, there are some judiciously quoted scriptures, but they are not used to support any logical position. The logic is based purely on the knowledge of science, physics, and mathematics as they relate to the known universe and the complexity of life.

For those that already believe in a Creator God, this book will help you make the logical case for a Creator to add to the spiritual case to made for a Creator, hopefully strengthening your faith.

For those whose faith lies in the god of atheism it is hoped this book will help you understand, as it did Fred Hoyle, that faith in atheism is not logical. And if that is the case, hopefully you will not be like Dr. Wald, who realized that believing life sprang from nothing was totally illogical, b

• Language: English
• Publisher: Bob Thiel, Ph.D.
• Release date: Nov 16, 2022
• ISBN: 9781636600352

Bob Thiel, Ph.D.

Dr. Thiel has a Ph.D. in one of the sciences and a foreign Th.D. in early Christianity. As the overseeing pastor of the Continuing Church of God, he works with people around the world to work on Jesus' commissions in Matthew 24:14 and Matthew 28:19-20, as well as working on other matters written about in the New Testament.

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Is God’s Existence Logical?

Scientific Truths vs. Myths Called Science

By Bob Thiel, Ph.D

Test all things; hold fast that which is good

(1 Thessalonians 5:21, NKJV)

Is there a God?

Is the belief in God scientific?

Do multiple scientific truths and facts support the biblical record?

Do many scientists rely on impossible myths when they discount the idea that the universe had a Divine Creator?

Can you prove that there is a God?

Does the physical world support its chance arrival or an intelligent design?

Where did life come from? Learn the truth!

Prove all things and hold fast to that which is good (KJV).

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Contents

1. Is It Logical to Believe in God?

2. Stephen Hawking’s and Richard Dawkins’ Delusions

3. Biblical Astronomy and Prophecy

4. Evolution: Improbable or Impossible?

5. Accept Truth, But Not Myths Called Science

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1. Is It Logical to Believe in God?

Is there a God?

Is it logical to believe in God?

Does it make scientific sense to believe in God in the 21st century?

This book will earnestly strive to provide information to help answer those questions. Although this book will not convince those who have already made up their minds to the contrary, it is hoped that those who are more open-minded will realize that it is logical to believe in the existence of God.

Two Choices

First of all, we need to realize that there are only two choices: there either was, at the earliest juncture, a Creator God (or similar power, the term God will be used throughout this book) which started the universe or there was not.

If there was not, then the universe is completely random like many believe, and life has no purpose.

If there was a God, does this God still exist? If so does this existence affect our lives?

Because there now is existence (and we do not intend to debate this point), then something has always existed.

Either God always existed or physical things like energy and matter have always existed.

If there was no God, then, somehow, the physical has always existed.

Truth and Logic

Many who believe in God have merely assumed the existence of God. Why?

Usually because they were taught it from childhood. It has been

believed in the circles in which they have lived or associated. The Apostle Paul was inspired to write:

21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1Thessalonians 5:21, KJV)

If you believe in God, have you proved it? What about secular scientists?

Well, they should prove their beliefs as well.

Yet the vast majority of people who accept evolution, whether they think they are scientists or not, at least passively, have accepted it because of their environment as well as exposure to it in school. Long ago, evolution became the scholarly IN thing.

The opposite belief, special creation, is not widely taught. Sadly, many who teach a divine creation do not always teach a view that is consistent with scripture and truth.

Most people have not truly objectively examined evolution. Furthermore, proponents often utilize the psychological ploy that it is a badge of scholarly status to accept evolution, and a stamp of ignorance or intellectual inferiority to doubt the theory/evolutionary model.

Consider that this basically means that people tend to believe what they do simply because they have been taught it, or because it has been accepted in their particular social environment.

In general, most people’s beliefs—religious or otherwise—are formed without examination or proof!

Christians are supposed to believe in truth (John 8:31-32, 45-46, 14:6) and logic (cf. Isaiah 1:18; Job 36:3, ISV; 1 Peter 3:15; Acts 19:8-9). Now, what is science? Merriam-Webster defines science as follows:

1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding

2 a : a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study

3 a : knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method

Therefore, real scientists should believe in truth and logic.

Yet:

16 The lazy man is wiser in his own eyes Than seven men who can answer sensibly. (Proverbs 26:16)

Sadly, most who consider themselves scientists throw aspects of truth and logic out when they are discussing the origin of the universe or the origin of life. They take a non-scientific approach that they like to portray as wise. They tend to very dismissive of biblical truth, without having solid reasons.

In this book, we will examine various opinions of some scientists and call attention to fallacies that some have concluded.

Matter and Entrophy

Matter, as much as is scientifically known (this author has a Ph.D. in one of the sciences), is essentially composed of atoms which are composed of subatomic particles such as protons, neutrons, and electrons (no one really knows what protons, neutrons, or electrons are composed of—though some type of energy appears probable— there are also quarks and other items that seem to be involved).

The Bible teaches:

18 Let’s reason together (Isaiah 1:18, ISV). Scientists, publicly, support the idea of logic and reason.

Yet, even though it is UNreasonable, the laws of physics and biology are bypassed by those who prefer a non-deity view of the universe.

For example, Newton’s first law of motion says that an object at rest stays at rest and an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.

So, consider that electrons orbit the nucleus of atoms (the nuclei normally consist of protons and neutrons) at incredible speeds. They are always orbiting in a