Kelly tracks down Yale Philosophy professor and the Dean of Arts & Sciences, Tamar Gendler, to discuss the great ancient philosophers’ take on our human nature and how it relates to modern happiness. Dean Gendler's studied academic and historical perspective on what makes us tick will definitely leave you feeling smarter, deeper and full of understanding about yourself and your fellow humans. If you enjoy this episode, make sure to check out Kelly’s other conversations about human nature with writers George Saunders, Margaret Atwood, Jia Tolentino and Brit Bennett. Please subscribe, rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! We read and appreciate every review. You can follow the conversation with Kelly on Instagram @kellycorrigan.