The catch: We’re the fans. (Bet you didn’t see that coming.)

“If you have the chance to make something beautiful,” Dan Gurney once told me, “and you don’t, well, what does that say about you?”

This show’s format rotates weekly, because squirrel. This episode’s format is called “How I Got Here.” It’s a free-form dive into the people, places, moments, and machines that made us care about racing when we were young.

Call this format an experiment, a loose chat over drinks without plan. INTC gets no more unstructured than this.

Also: This one is just Sam and Jeff. Ross was busy doing something at tape time but didn’t specify what. His loss! Because Ross is Canadian, now I get to type the words, “He was obviously writing his poutine manifesto.”

Related Trivia: No trivia this week. Sam writes these episode descriptions and his wife is currently in bed with strep throat, so he’s a bit brain-dead from simultaneously working, taking care of a sick lady, and solo parenting two kids in grade school hold on a sec I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU, STOP EATING BEANS AND THEN SITTING ON YOUR SISTER’S HEAD, OKAY?

Sorry, where were we? 

This episode was produced by Mike Perlman.

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ABOUT THE SHOW:
It’s Not the Car is a podcast about people and speed. We tell racing stories and leave out the boring parts.

Ross Bentley is a former IndyCar driver and an internationally renowned performance coach and author. Jeff Braun is a championship-winning race engineer. Sam Smith is an award-winning journalist and a former executive editor of Road & Track magazine. Together, we explore the emotion at the heart of the machine.

We don’t love racing for the nuts and bolts—we love it for what it asks of the bag of meat at the wheel.

New episodes every Tuesday.