Matt is masons therapist but more of a friend really. Matt is the man and we talked about a lot of cool stuff in this episode.  -how to develope trust in a theraputic relationship  -what is the goal of a therapist -the heros journey  also: Ryan Garner wrote a tasty jam and i love it but Ryan was to worried to post it so I talked to his wife denise and we are posting his whole song. Hope you guys like it as much as i do. If you dont like it, then you make one. You write and do the music for your own entire song and then you upload it to spotify or apple music or whatever. go make your own.