This podcast episode features Australian software developer David Boyle discussing his programs Visual Wrap and Visual Weave. David shares how he got into rod building and developed the software to aid in intricate thread wrapping and weaving designs. The software allows users to create custom patterns, tweak colors, and view accurate 3D renderings before starting a project. David also invented "wrap sticks" to simplify learning cross-wrapping techniques.David partnered with Mary McIntyre Christie to create the resource website Thread Central, offering the software, pattern libraries, Mary's online courses, and tools. Bill emphasizes the value of collaboration and growing the rod-building community. While David moves to Australia, he remains dedicated to supporting users and innovating new features to push the craft forward. Both speakers express passion for rod building and appreciation for the community.