In this episode of The Brainy Business podcast, you will hear an insightful conversation between host Melina Palmer and Lianne Potter, a cybersecurity consultant with a background in anthropology. Lianne's unique journey from being a software developer to entering the field of cybersecurity provides a valuable perspective on understanding user behavior and cultural nuances in technology. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing the human element in cybersecurity and highlights the need for businesses to bridge the gap between the security team and other departments.  By incorporating disciplines such as anthropology, psychology, and behavioral economics, organizations can gain a deeper understanding of why humans behave the way they do, ultimately leading to a stronger security culture. Lianne also shares her thoughts on the metaverse and the significance of direct communication platforms in shaping our digital interactions. This episode sheds light on the role of anthropology in cybersecurity and offers practical insights for cybersecurity professionals and business leaders seeking to improve their understanding of human behavior and cultural nuances in security practices. In this episode: Understand the cultural nuances within your organization to develop tailored cybersecurity practices that align with user behavior. Discover how human behavior influences the security practices within your organization and how to leverage this knowledge to enhance cybersecurity. Foster a stronger security culture within your organization by recognizing and addressing the unique challenges and motivations of your employees. Incorporate the principles of anthropology into your business processes to gain a deeper understanding of your organization's security practices and how they can be improved. Gain insight into the relationship between human behavior and security practices to effectively implement strategies that mitigate cyber risks. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, In this episode, Melina Palmer introduces Lianne Potter, a cyber anthropologist. Lianne shares her expertise in cyber anthropology, which involves applying the principles of anthropology to understand and improve cybersecurity cultures. 00:03:11 - Understanding Cybersecurity Culture Lianne explains the importance of understanding cybersecurity culture, from individual users to security teams within organizations. By addressing resistance and finding solutions, cultural security transformation becomes easier and more effective. 00:05:55 - Becoming a Cyber Anthropologist Lianne discusses how she became a cyber anthropologist and the early challenges of studying digital cultures. She highlights the impact of virtual spaces on relationships, the replication of societal structures, and the need to preserve digital artifacts. 00:09:59 - Applying Anthropology in Real-Life Lianne shares her experience working for a charity and applying her anthropology skills to solve issues of destitution. She encountered the digital divide, where vulnerable individuals faced social disadvantages due to a lack of access to online services. 00:13:45 - The Human-Centric Approach to Security Lianne emphasizes the importance of a human-centric approach to security. By understanding the human factors and motivations behind cybersecurity behaviors, organizations can create more effective security practices and mitigate risks. 00:16:54 - Introduction to Technology and Anthropology Lianne talks about her experience growing up with a family computer and her interest in computer programming. She shares how she used free online resources and attended tech meetups to teach herself programming. Lianne also explains how her background in anthropology influenced her approach to technology. 00:18:30 - Applying Anthropology to Technology in the NHS Lianne discusses her first job as a software developer in the UK National Health Service (NHS) and how she applied anthropology to ensure that technology w