In this episode, Kavi invites Amoda Maa to discuss the role of the body in awakening. Together they explore how to reconcile the deepest realization of true nature (the formlessness of Being) with the unavoidable fact that we experience ourselves as form (body, sensations, perceptions). They also discuss whether the well-being of the body has an impact on the spiritual journey, and whether awakening has a direct impact on the body.