Trent Kusters chats with Alex Ritchie and Joel Mason of Black Salt Games, developers of the indie hit, Dredge. Together they discuss their game development journeys; the original ideas around Dredge and what the early prototypes looked like in terms of art and design; balancing difficulty and consequence in the various zones; and how they introduced an aura of spookiness throughout the game. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving us a rating and review. The Game Maker's Notebook is sponsored by Xsolla. To learn more, go to xsolla.pro/AOIAAS.