If the garden has taught us anything, it's to appreciate the truth about dirt and all its benefits. Zac Kieffer of E-Cloth joins us to talk about this very subject and the conditioning that we've all had around cleaning vs. disinfecting. Zac shares his personal mission to help us understand the gut and microbiome, all provoked by a bet he made years ago to run a triathlon. We learn a lot about marketing, what it takes to make clean claims, and the science behind microfiber and so much more.

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